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52 Comments (+add yours?)

1. Kale Kayihura
   Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:15:14

   Thank you, Abbey. Very good suggestion. You are safe and we would assist in your visits. Why would you be under the misapprehension that you would be arrested?!

2. okurutu simon peter
   Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:16:01

   Gen. Kale Kayihura,

   This is assurance is somehow comforting; but on second thoughts, exactly how have you arranged to safe guard us from such dangers as poisoning if that is the weapon the assailants may choose to use; do you plan to get our escorts to test what we eat or drink before we do it to guarantee our safety as you promise? For me I will not drink or eat anything from people I suspect, no offense meant!

   General, I think you are over committing yourself; I think you need to elaborate what you say otherwise you will be blamed if something bad happens to a person coming home confident of safety as you state.

   Peter Simon

3. Mayimuna Nabagereka
   Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:16:46

   Simon
   Good questions to Kale Kayihura. Let him tell us how he will protect all Ugandans from abroad visiting home. What if an ambitious guy from CMI-Kireka or any of the security organisations decides to take matters into their hands and arrests or kills a person like Mulindwa( who abuses our Kabaka) on UAH or any of other members? Can Kayihura really guarantee Abbey Semuwemba’s safety in Kampala or he is just joking? Let this discussion continue,though.

   Mai

4. GENERAL KAYIHURA
   Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:17:13

   You guys have a very distorted view of the situation at home.

5. mulindwa
   Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:17:46

   Kale Kayihura

   A Uganda family from United States came to Uganda to visit, a man his wife and a daughter, I think the daughter was 9 years old and she was visiting Uganda for her very first time for she was born in United States. They were ambushed between Entebbe and Kampala and all murdered, they never made it to Kampala. And as a Police Chief honestly you knew of that murder if EM In this far country knew about it and read about it as it went all over the wires.

   Do we really have a very distorted view of the situation at home sir?

   EM
   On the 49th

6. abbey
   Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:18:27

   Gen.Kayihura,

   This is not only about Abbey Semuwemba as the moderator of UAH but Ugandans in diaspora wish to be safe from people who do not exist and who, if they did exist would not be presenting a threat to them. I’m sure you know what I’m talking about. So, i wont expand on this,Sir.

   Travel broadens the mind, you know .So, it’s imperative that you take this issue seriously. The government should not close off the population outside the country as they probably know things people at home don’t know. Let us continue engaging each other without anybody feeling that they are being threatened by anything or anybody.

   If you keep shutting down these people as some of you in government are doing, they will continue developing conspiracy theories around you.You know what they say about one lie leading to another, then another!

   Here’s the rub. Get two or three people from the government to open up email addresses or accounts on facebook with the sole purpose of engaging Ugandans in diaspora about different issues. If any of them is arrested or kidnapped( as some people call it), there should be someone in government specifically to fight for their release immediately.I’m saying ‘immediately’ because people request for such ‘holidays’ from their places of work, and time means a lot to Ugandans in diaspora. If they are killed, there must be someone to offer a proper explanation compared to the confusion we witnessed during the death of Hon.Nebanda.

   With a lot of questions, engagements, discussions and investigations, perhaps it will be the start of something beneficial to everyone.Obviously that can only be achieved in the sense of participatory agreements. Everyone cooperates, everyone profits, the country prospers, everyone’s happy, the rest of the world is left with less to negatively talk about Uganda.

   Nze bwendaba munange

   Abbey

7. GENERAL KAYIHURA
   Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:19:11

   Mulindwa,
   This is total news. I have never heard of it. I hope it is not true. When did it happen? Give me details. And even if such a tragic incident happened, why would you insinuate that it was government responsible?!

8. GENERAL KAYIHURA
   Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:19:39

   Of course it is not about Abbey, and I hope am giving the assurance to all Ugandans in the diaspora. There are by the way equally vicious critics of government living freely in Uganda and you know it. That people are not safe becos of what they say about us in government, I don’t get it. We are not shutting you out. Talking about myself, I was initially excited to engage in debate, and I tried until I found it was no longer a useful. Just insults, after insults, falsehoods after falsehoods. It was becoming counterproductive and I saw no point in it. Am a polite person I could not continue lest I make a mistake. Otherwise, we have no problem engaging in useful debate. Those who want to use this forum to empty their spleens, well we shall not oblige. Quite frankly we don’t have that kind of time. In the end, Abbey, let me assure you, in spite of the heaps of insults, falsehoods, distortions, history will absolve us.

9. JOHN
   Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:20:25

   IGP I’m one person that has always appreciated the work you have done in the police force given that I have many that seat right next to you that praise the good job done by you. But my problem with you is one that you have failed to be an independent IGP that takes sides when it come to making decisions.
   So to that I hope you will improve on it for we are watching and compiling data on ever thing that happens under your watch.

10. JOHN
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:20:48

    IGP thats why some of us say that you dont know what happens right under your nose and at times you decide to keep a death ear just because its a high order for there are things that have happened concerning the first family that Bwana Kawesi at SPS has handled in a manner that has made many suffer just because its orders from above that I wont mention on this forum and even some officers attached right at your nose.

    So when people complain its not for nothing for we are not just like those that wake up in the morning and decide to organised a walk to work without thinking.

11. JOHN
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:21:27

    Abbey it looks like you are buying your way with these guys unless you tell me that you haven’t received a brown envelop too for one of these days I failing to know the Abbey that we knew that stood for the rights of Ugandans.

12. mulindwa
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:22:16

    Kale Kayihura
    I take an issue with defining this forum as an organization with only insults. Fact remain that if anyone wants to run out of this forum it should be myself, for I have been insulted left and center. But I remain in the forum for I know why I am here. I need a new and better government in Uganda. You run out of the forum for you gets asked straight questions, that you do not want to engage into. That is not a Police Officer that wants to engage Uganda’s in diaspora. Go back in all writings you have responded to, You do not respond to anything concerning policy for example. You do not respond to anything concerning Police behaviors. And if you want me to remind you some of the postings that have been posted regarding policy that you simply ignore I can repost them for you sir. I have already complained that you respond if a Police officer is beaten or killed but when Police Officers kill people, when Ugandans demand the reports out of inquiries you are not here sir. And that to me shows that you are not responding but reading. A child got shot in and killed in Masaka, and so many questions were asked in this forum, and you did not respond a single bit about that murder sir. Now let me tell you something sir, I grew up in a Police family and I love Police establishment for I know what they do, and the difficulty they go through, but when a Police Officer goes wrong, and society asks questions you need to respond. The moment you refuse to respond, you send out a chilling message that the behavior of that Police Officer is an organizational policy. And when you read my writing slowly you will realize that I have not gone after arresting MPs, I have not gone after arresting party leaders, but when a child’s head is blown up as the one in Masaka, you have a national responsibility to stand up and respond to society in a forum this large, because your refusal to respond to such issue only works against you and against the entire force. What was so abusive on the Agaba attacking of Ugandans in Port bell? I wonder sir.

    And yet when a single stone is thrown to a police Officer you are available and responding to all postings.

    EM
    On the 49th

13. abbey
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:22:54

    John,
    I’m still the same person and that is exactly what I’m doing here,i.e.
    ensuring that freedom of speech is respected such that it does not
    mean resulting into death or imprisonment. So, I’m hoping that you
    would support us on this, bruv, as General Kayihura has openly done.

    Whether Gen.Kayihura is pretending or not( as you seem to insinuate),
    i cannot know this for sure, and i leave that to him and God. All i
    want is for Ugandans to feel free and safe to travel back home despite
    their expressions on UAH and other social networks. So, i’m hoping
    that Gen.Kayihura will raise this issue in their next ‘security
    meeting’, and we will get some kind of official feedback from his
    bosses.

    As for the ‘brown’ envelopes from Kampala,…… sorry, I’ve never
    even smelt one. By the way, why are they called ‘brown’ envelopes yet
    they could come in other colours?

14. daudi kasirye
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:24:46

    Its interesting to hear from Kayihura after quite long……The Uganda
    police at this time can hardly be trusted to be Ugandan….it belongs
    to Museveni and his family and cohorts.
    The best Kayihura could do at times is to keep mum……..
    We are now hearing of raids on barracks but many of us are skeptical
    that its really so. The govt is known for being extremly dishonest in
    such issues.

    History will NOT absolve you Sir!!!!

15. john kwitonda
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:25:36

    why kayihura? do u need him to do that? these are guys that have unleashed unprecedent torture to our people.they have killed ,maimed and tortured.so do it the other way but not through these tools of oppression.

16. Federica Nshemereirwe
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:26:24

    I think it would only be fair if EM could give the names of that family. Otherwise it will remain a story. A story can be cooked up, you know, to discredit government. So please give the names of these people who were murdered to give the general a basis for investigations. It is only fair!
    FN.

17. GENERAL KAYIHURA
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:27:14

    Thank you, Federica. That is true I have read and seen fabrications even on this network. Why people do these things when they know that it will be disproved with time!
    Surely, gentlemen do you not read Uganda’s dailies! The vicious criticisms by persons in Uganda. I think there is deliberate pretense here. We wine and dine with individuals who accuse of all sorts of things under the sky. Quite frankly, our main weapon has always been the force of argument. Yes, of course when debate fails and we are confronted by argument of force, we have to defend ourselves. Nobody has or will be victimized simply becos they have said things on the net.

18. Henry Ford Mirima
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:27:57

    Abbey

    You are inadvertantly accusing the NRM Government of operating a dictatorial regime based on intimidation and fear. You are also admitting of being favour-seeker.

    Why should free people need army protection to visit the country where they were borne. You are admitting that Uganda is a Police state.

    Abbey you live in the UK and Rev Kamugisha lives in the USA. Why was I, Henry Ford Mirima, allowed to visit any part of the USA and the UK, including Buckingham Palace, filming anything I wanted and those unarmed sentries merely smiled at me and even engaged me in joking.
    Here in East Africa I have visited Tanzania and taken pix of presidential residence and nobody escorted me.

    And your Kale Kayihura admits running a police state when he says he is ready to give you protection. You are in Katemba…temutuzannyira ku bwongo.

    Henry Ford Mirima

19. Pakide Ponyura
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:28:42

    This very sad story has been recounted many a time since the 1990s and continues to be retold today. It is being retold each time African’s get together and share their sad stories of failed investments and being let down by family members back in Africa.

    The version I have consistently heard about this tragedy is that our Ugandan brother had raised enough money to build himself a permanent house in his ancestral village before he could take his family home to visit. He sent money to his family to build the house and he got back updates every so often of the progress. Beautiful pictures of the slab, the walls, the roof as it was being constructed then of course the very beautiful complete house.

    Unfortunately, like in many situations — not just in Uganda but everywhere else in Africa and the Carribbean, the photos our Ugandan brother from California received were photos of someone else”s house. The family “ate” the money, did not built the house and therefore employed an assassin (s) to eliminate their son/brother and his family on their way to the village!

    Would love to hear any other version of this story.

20. Robert Atuhairwe
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:29:52

    Abbey, you crack my ribs. There is a way people ‘donate’ me wherever
    they want and now you have found home with them. So amusing! But State
    House is a place to be. Many make it appear like a torture chamber or
    ghetto of hyenas but that’s their perception. It’s a free mind world.
    If i am not proud of State House, where is my vision? Why do you think
    the Besigyes, Maos, Kashambuzis would do anything to get there? It’s
    earthly paradise with immense responsibility so keep me there.

    On Kyanjo, it’s true he is back in the country and in better shape.
    You know some colleagues here had written him off with glee, obviously
    anticipating another mudslinging session. They were betting on his
    life like wizards/witches. If i decide to, i may advise him to take
    note who may really want him to go and who may not.

    Overtime, i have noted your bewilderment and concern for Ugandan
    returnees’ security. Well, if the issue is insecurity, it’s a general
    problem even for the stay-homes. Something like Security For All. It’s
    impractical to accord every returnee a convoy of security cars simply
    because they have been in ‘outside countries’. How about those who
    stay behind to mend things through thick and thin. I am aware many
    Ugandans tell tragic stories in the diaspora in a bid to gain
    citizenship or pursue other ulterior motives. They forget to say their
    relatives and friends whom they left behind are part of the
    complicated problem. This isn’t a tale i pick up from third parties. I
    could name names.

    Some of the scares are common crimes like robbery, property wrangles,
    sour relationships, etc. If there is a systematic programme to
    eliminate returnees by the authorities, then may be they don’t have
    their own people ‘out there’ or the E.C’s move to get ‘diasporians’ to
    participate in decision making at home is a great deception comparable
    to the Biblical one. That’s too much for these ‘authorities’ to
    handle.

21. nuwwahereza fardson kairanga
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:31:38

    Abbey,
    When you look closely to the structure of our Uganda Police, its quite impressive, but when it comes to operation, this is where things go wrong.
    Gen. Kale has tried his best to to train and assign most of the operations to these young officers, however, most of them are eratic in their methods of work.
    I am yet to see officers who are persuasive, engaging in their operations, they still believe in beating up both peaceful and violent demostrators.
    One officer whose skills in controlling and engaging the public I have come accross is Afande Sorowen, Afande Kaweesi has equally been impressive, but officers like Omara, Ruhweza….., need to be sent for further training…..hoping they can improve.
    I believe we have people in diaspora who are scared of what is happening in the country as is always potrayed in the media, and they are right to seek for assurence about their safety. However, for special protection, this may not be possible since some of them may not want to identify themselves to our security personels, or prefer to live a quite and independent life when here in the country.
    As the insecurity continue to increase in the country, most of our officers these days stage road blocks in every corner of the city to nab drunk- drivers, this is becoming a cash cow for them. They have abondoned or suspended other operations and pooled their energy to this one. Surprisingly, they are interested in finding out whether you are drunk only, even if someone is carrying other dangerous weapons in the vehicle, that is not their business. Last week I was stopped six times on Saturday night, just from kampala city centre to Naalya, some of those operations are hidden in dark corners, very soon thugs will start stagging theirs especially over the weekend.
    Nevertheless, as forumists we need to check the insulting language we always use if we are to continue our sober interaction with other members in the society.
    Afande Kale, you need to choose one or two menbers in your police, they may not necessarily be spokespersons, but officers with zeal and commitment.

    Fardson Kairanga

22. GEORGE OKELLO- LONDON
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:38:59

    Mr Kayihura

    What I would like you to explain to me is why I was detained two times
    under your regime, the first time in 1986 when I was locked up in
    Makindye barracks and the second time in 1989 when again was locked up
    in Lubiri barracks.

    My second arrest in 1989 was done in the evening in broad daylight on
    the streets of Kampala. I was beaten up so badly that even the
    civilians who crowded around began to plead with the militia men of
    the NRA to stop beating me, otherwise they were going to kill me. I
    was tied up kandoya style and taken to the CPS. I have no idea if you
    Mr Kayihura was serving there at the time, but the officer on duty on
    that night refused to accept me into custody. I was so badly beaten
    up, he feared I would die and he did not want to take any
    responsibility.

    Thereafter, I was driven to Lubiri barracks and dumped in a cell
    containing about 14 other detainees. I was still tied Kandoya style, I
    had lost my eye glasses, both my eyes were closed from the beating. It
    was a monumental effort for my family to discover where I was, but
    there were also some kind people in the NRA militia who agreed to
    secretly alert my family where I was being held. When I was released,
    I had no shoes, no shirt, all my property had been stolen because I
    had just returned to Uganda from London when I was abducted.

    I was never charged with any criminal offence. The only reason they
    brutalised me was that I was very prominent in the UPC student
    movement, but I never served in any political, government
    intelligence, army or security capacity.

    When released into the custody of my brother, the first thing he did
    was to take me to his home so I could get cleaned up and as well as
    dressed up in ill-fitting clothes since I am much taller and thinner
    than him. He then took me to an optometrist somewhere in Kampala who
    treated my eyes and gave me temporary eye glasses. I then went to the
    High Court and met up with Chief Justice Odoki, because I had a
    scheduled meeting with him. He was so shocked to see the state I was
    in, and when he asked me what had happened to me and I explained, he
    just said he could not comment.

    Then I left Uganda that same day, never to return again. I have since
    had children who have never set foot in Uganda even though they are
    teenagers. Any suggestion of visiting Uganda is such a terrifying
    ordeal that we don’t even mention it. Even when my father died a few
    years ago, I could not attend his funeral and nor could my family.

    Factor in the fact that I have filed several criminal cases aginst
    Museveni and you yourself in the British courts and at the ICC, what
    sort of guarantee about my safety then do I have if I voluntarily
    returned to Uganda? I am well aware that close associates of Museveni
    like Raiti Omongin and Hope, who was his wife, mysteriously
    disappeared in Tanzania never to be seen again, and many people
    suspect Museveni is the one responsible for their disappearance. Given
    that I have very young children, two of whom have just started
    university, I have no wish to disappear myself and I have no
    confidence at all in your assurances of my safety.

23. allan barigye
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:45:01

    Fardson,

    What is wrong with Rweza?
    He thinks his is texan?
    I believe his ill manners may have alot to do with his growing up.
    He does not respect his elders even in the force itself!..unless ofcourse….

24. mulindwa
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:45:55

    Abbey Ssemuwemba

    Your message is not getting through for it is built on a very wrong premise,
    you start by defining it as “Our government” Abbey this is not my government
    and it is not a government of many members I knowing in this forum family.
    Facts be told we need it out of power. Abbey you are addressing this message
    to Omukulu Kayihura but some of us have opposed this government of yours
    even before Omukulu Kayihura ever expected to lead Uganda Police. That is
    classified as consistence sir. Now tell me why one would stand up today and
    declare that this is a government of all of you and in those all of you,
    includes EM sir? Abbey these people are about being in power and they will
    go an extra mile to reach that destination including killing those they
    should have cared about and you really think that standing in forum and
    asking for God’s mercies will protect the membership in this family? And
    then what will the members of this forum do when they Kayihuras turn you
    into ebisubi byomubisi? For they will trust me it is only when you will
    become useless to them.

    Abbey you are a moderator of a forum that has a very large membership,
    please do not give people false pretense that you as a moderator have the
    ability to demand that they are safe to go to Uganda. Ugandans have lived
    passed The Movement, they sneak in and sneak out, they call their people
    and meet them in neighboring counties, kindly refrain from giving people a
    false hope that it is safe to fly to Uganda. You’re going to cause deaths to
    people that would have outlived this government, and if I were you I would
    stand up and make a very clear declaration that every member in this forum
    has a right to decide to go home or not to go home, Abbey we have done this
    for the last 20 plus years, why do you think it is important for you as a
    moderator of this forum to plead for our mercies sir? Don’t give people
    false hopes for trust me one of those days a member of this forum is going
    to be arrested in Uganda and you will scream bloody murder in this forum and
    he or she will never be released and will end up dead into a safe house,
    then what will you do as a moderator of this forum? We all left Uganda on
    different issue and we have settled out here on different grounds and if we
    were smart enough to understand that it is not safe for us to remain in
    Uganda trust me we are smart enough to know that it is safe to go home. And
    yes you can do your deals of safety in Uganda with yours truly Kayihura if
    your personal family is going to Uganda, but the membership of the forum is
    independent people, and the decision of going home must be theirs and
    theirs only. This is a very wrong path and kindly abandon it very
    immediately. They are going to kill your members left and center and you
    will end up palarized trust me. We sneak into Uganda when we decide to and
    it is not even a God damn business of UAH let alone its moderator.

    And I have lived with the Movement long enough to make a very respectable
    statement as such.

    EM
    On the 49th

25. abbey
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:47:15

    Edward,
    I’m not trying to convert anyone to anything or telling anybody what to do. I’m certainly not using this message as a bait for the government to kill Ugandans in diaspora who pass via Entebbe Airport. I have my own fish to reel in. In fact I do not know how I would push anyone to do travel directly to Kampala if they are scared of doing it.

    It’s simply a fallacy to suppose that only a state can provide safety in a country as ours yet Safety in one’s home country is something people routinely value. Government does not promise a hereafter. That’s why it’s important that the government engages security organs/ security people around the country; sensitize them about our feelings towards them and their behaviour………….. such that we come to some sort of understanding on certain situations.

    It could be argued that the very survival of the Museveni government is actually dependent on the fact that they regularly face hostile opposition( both at home and abroad). The cycle has repeated itself countless times over the millennia:Ugandans abroad enter the country through our porous borders; do whatever they have to do; and then come back to oppose the government.

    The unfortunate result has been “silent persecutions”if caught by the state, not learning anything positive or new from their country during their stay; failure to engage important people and colleagues – time after time after time. Every time they pull the tiger’s tail, they get scratched. Of course, they blame the tiger.Is that what some of you would like to continue?

    Of course, It is not uncommon to find those within the government who actually applaud these bad actions against some members from diaspora that attempt to go home either to visit or stay permanently. For instance, didn’t you read the response I got from Owekitibwa Tony Owana when I first introduced this issue? I thought we could use such an influential person in the media to advocate for the peaceful return and safety at home of Ugandans in diaspora, but his response totally disappointed me. I’d almost be willing to bet that Mr.Owana Tony would feel some sort of satisfaction if any of the vocal people here on UAH or other social networks are arrested or killed by the government at home.

    But we won’t give up engaging other sobber minds at home to see that Ugandans abroad feel free and safe to travel back home. This is not only about me as Abbey Semuwemba but a lot of other people out there. People have been convinced that we have got some sort of total military dictatorship at home. Anything could happen to one walking down on streets and police would do nothing. People are scared of poison and bullets. Everybody is scared, and this is not good for the country both in the short and long run. We need to start from somewhere, thus, my suggestions to General Kayihura and others in the government.

    Abbey

26. JOHN
    Mar 13, 2013 @ 19:47:52

    Abbey,
    Im faltered by you and your statements here for I think you have forgotten that you are dealing with silent killers here that pretend in your face and then turn to do the best they know. I think the reason why the likes of you never learn from history is why many have continued to suffer just because they try to follow your advice.
    Buganda and Baganda that have good faith have continued to be sacrificed just because of such reckless thinking and people like you and the Nsibambi’s and Katumba Wamala’s and many likes that have continued to help this regime to kill rob and distort the innocent.
    You might know very little about whats going on back home to make such suggestions.

27. Hannah Ogwapiti
    Mar 14, 2013 @ 15:27:31

    THIS IS THE SAME KAYIHURA ABBEY SEMUWEMBA IS TRUSTING WITH HIS LIFE WHILE IN UGANDA? Kayihura says that ugandans abroad are supporting rebels yet we all know that its a load of rubbish…Ugandans in diaspora are too busy trying to keep head above water in a triple dip recession, who has spare cash to fund dissidents and where are the dissidents?

    Generalizing that Ugandans working abroad support rebels is bad.Should we stop sending money to support our families?Some may begin investing their money where they are,fearing to be branded rebels which will negatively affect Uganda’s economy.These jokers never cease to amaze me. People are trying to get their mortgages paid, saving for college funds and planning to better themselves nti ate they financed an operation where one solo gun is stolen to start a war? Ssente za munauganda ziribye nnyo paying their salaries.

    The ONLY known names in Rebel activities In Uganda are, Yoweri Muwabutwa, Gen. Kony , Salim Saleh , Kayihura… and group….these bush- minded thieves should never ever de-link you from your country…….it’s a big insult to people in developed countries with plenty of hi- tech military techniques to be linked to such backward nonsense. So, please don’t fear visiting home because Kayihura is threatening to arrest you.Emundu emu gyebabye yegenda okola team yabayekela elwanyise govt enamba?? Banonya webanatadilkila kwewola sente mubazungu nti waliwo ababayekela BAF.

28. WB Kyijomanyi
    Mar 14, 2013 @ 15:28:35

    Ms Ogwapiti:

    The IGP is about to go mad and destroy himself. Look at his face. He is lying.It is sad to see the IGP go that route. I have told you on this forum that when the wakombozi arrived in Kampala in 1979, Mr. Kale Kayihura literally led Makerere University students in the threats to parliament building. He was a progressive chap. But NRM ganja and Congo’s loot have entered his head.

    It is hard to reconcile the Kayihura of 1979 with the damn lying Kayihura of today. I warned Ugandans that with the death of Justice Mulenga (RIP), his uncle who had an influence on the IGP, the IGP would go extreme and it has turned out to be true. He no longer worries how his sober uncle would see his actions.

    He is lying that Dr Besigye and Lord Mayor Lukwago are trying to take over power by force. But wait a minute what about the military coup threats from NRM insiders. I think they basically want to clean up some chaps in the army for obvious reasons so they send out the IGP to make such lies. He reminded of mwakenya during Moi’s reign of terror in the 80s.

    The IGP and other NRM goons should acquaint themselves with The Alien Tort Claims Act of 1789 and how it could be invoked to cause them real trouble.

    Many of those same people come to UNAA meetings so one day you will hear something.

    WBK

29. Hannah Ogwapiti
    Mar 14, 2013 @ 15:29:23

    WBK,
    Yes, he is lying and he knows it but they want to scare off people from visiting home legitimately. They are trying to find ways to arrest people as soon as they land at Entebbe in the guise of them being rebels…… to hell the so called General.If Kayihura and his goons ever arrest Ugandans visiting their country,he too must be arrested outside Uganda…just report these cases to police in your respective countries, the laws in place will remedy his /their actions. They are scaring off people from visiting home and this is not right.

    H.O

30. john kwitonda
    Mar 14, 2013 @ 15:30:07

    where did these rebels in government get their support? ask KAYIHURA,DiD THEY GET it from the diaspora? These GUYS are so afraid,they are worried that what they did might be done someone else.when they were rebels,they did not mind about who supported them,now they find it troblesome for wanaichi to support them

31. john kwitonda
    Mar 14, 2013 @ 15:30:31

    Ugandans be careful with Kayihura!! The man is a politician /cadre and he knows whom he wants down .they talk nicely but those are very dangerous individuals ,products of a dangerous regime with their plans .Kayihura has never apologised nor set a commission of inquiry of the people who died in sept.2009 riots.he has not told us the circumstances under which the babies and pregnant women were shot by his forces.Simply because these were baganda,so it doesnt matter.

    His policing is after lukwago and Besigye and that is what even kaweesa and his boys do.I think they make money out of this.operation allowances.The good guys in police have been sidelined .those Ruhwaza and the Omaras who can do their dirty work get promoted.It is as if policing is about keeping Besigye at home.It has never been a police work to save falling regimes.thes fellows are actaully fighting for the regime.

32. nuwwahereza fardson kairanga
    Mar 14, 2013 @ 15:31:21

    Hannah, WBK,
    Now you have resorted to insulting IGP.
    Hannah, you are behaving like Speaker Kadaga who said that she knew the drinking habbits of all MPs and was sure that late Nebanda was not taking alcahol, how wrong was she when facts/pictures showing the late MP tanking alcahol like a fish swallowing water.
    So pliz do not insist that these people in diaspora can not support rebel group, some may some may not. Infact you have accused the IGP of generalising people in diaspora of supporting rebels and you are equally generalising them that none can imagine doing so.
    By the way, most of the rebel groups in Africa are foreign funded, either by citizens living abroad or hostile countries with interests in a certain country.

33. GENERAL KAYIHURA
    Mar 14, 2013 @ 15:31:49

    Abbey, it’s you I can appeal to becos of all our critics you are the most balanced. How can I assure the Ugandans in the diaspora that we mean well. Uganda is your country. There are worse critics/ commentators who are living in Uganda peacefully. We have demonstrably shown our adherence to the rule of law to a fault. Yes, I don’t deny mistakes have been made over the years. But they are largely personal rather than systemic or state-inspired as was the case in the past. Am ready to personally receive at the airport a representative delegation from abroad. I will arrange for you to move around and get acquainted with what is going on. Uganda is for all of us. This is your home and nobody can deny you your birthright. Am not a liar and there is trickery. Am being honest.

    Am your compatriot Kale Kayihura (Lt Gen)

34. GENERAL KAYIHURA
    Mar 14, 2013 @ 15:32:09

    Ndugu WBK,

    You are mistaken. Am still the same only the situation has changed. Am still in the struggle to improve things. Am not perfect but at the same time am not a demon as you seem to think. I invite you home and we talk. There is no need fr this animosity. I read a book called In Search of Enemies. Sometimes I think that some of you brothers are searching fr enemies where they don’t exist.

35. john kwitonda
    Mar 14, 2013 @ 15:32:42

    Iam fight with my conscience to believe the general.I cannot reconcile what he has done in the past with what he is writing now on the forum.May be he is looking for a softer landing!!
    These guys have mistreated citizens foe a long time without remorse.If the regime cannot attack the temple of justice and they say they adhere to the rule of law,which one can we believe.I remember,when Ruhana Rugunda was minister of internal affairs,the state kidnapped 3 ministers of MENGO and the IGP told the nation these guys were training rebels.He said ,they had eveidence and they subjected the official to inhumen treatment.they have nevr apologised not told the nation they were wrong.ths even Rugunda confirmed they had reports,the guys were recruiting rebels.
    I ask the IGP,DO YOU REALISE IT IS UNDER your tenure that we have seen citizens killed in large numbers but with no convictions? No reports??May be I can remind you afew cases and these will always remain a scar on your conscience.May be in your old age ,if you decide to turn to your God,u will go public and repent.

    Kichwamba massacre,kibwetere,sept riots2009,babe NALWANGA AND THE PREGNANT WOMAN SHOT,Iron bars are rampant in Mukono but no ones knows and no reports.Kasubi murders and yet suspects are well known to citizens and security.Kyadondo bombs,kabalagala.etcc…All these have happened on your watch.

    Can you tell us the convictions and what happened to all thee.the IGP is judged not on how many political demostrations he has stopped ,but the accountability to citizens and the policing of the community.

36. WB Kyijomanyi
    Mar 14, 2013 @ 15:36:20

    Folks

    No, Iam not insulting Mr Kayihura. I want him to be the Kale Kayihura he was in 1979. Yes he is now a general, but he should not make such dumb statements. If anything Iam trying to help him reflect on who he is. Many of you only know Kayihura the general. And yes he was in Congo, so that changed him in a big way.

    But he was not always like that. And that is why he never responds to that part of his past because it is true. I do not just make up stories. It is a true story and Mr Kayihura can hopefully reflect on how far he has gone or deviated from that ideal.

    Well the IGP has real problems in the police force. Several videos posted in UAH are shocking but that is Uganda police. May be it is standard operating procedure

    General Kayihura should take what we say about him as positive criticim meant to help him to a good job with a rooten prolice force. Police are probably the number one law breakers in Uganda. Now go figure. How can such chracters enforce peace let alone the rule of law?

    If you calls these insults, so be it. We want to hold the IGP to ahigher stnadrd than his predecessors. We had no clue what those folks did before, but we do know a bit about General Kale Kayihura. He can do better even within the corrupt system Uganda is.

    WBK

37. pile peter
    Mar 15, 2013 @ 03:29:24

    Mr. Kale Kayihura i doubt is u rily care abt ugandanz ,therez rily alot happen in da police dat u dono ,da ugandan police aint ugandan coz mst ov them violet da ryts ov ugandanz on prospect ov orderz frm above ,al i want 2 knw is WHO CONTRLZ DA DE 2DE RUNNING OV DA POLICE FORCE ,U OR DA NRM PARTY?

38. giles muhame
    Mar 15, 2013 @ 09:27:17

    But guys, i really don’t think this government kills political opponents.
    In Uganda, for example, there is a popular FB forum, Activists for Change.
    Guys spend the better part of their time disparaging gov’t. I am yet to hear of arrests of mysterious deaths of members.
    I know sometimes security forces can be high-handed but the situation is not as bad as you are imagining.

    HERE IS A STORY ON YOUR INTERACTION WITH THE IGP LT GEN KALE KAYIHURA
    http://www.chimpreports.com/index.php/people/blogs/8753-kayihura-quizzed-by-ugandans-in-diaspora.html

39. mulindwa
    Mar 15, 2013 @ 09:28:15

    Giles Muhame

    You see that is what you need to learn from The Movement. It kills for a purpose. It is a well-established organization that does not go after any one unless it has a reason to believe that you are a threat. That is why Dr Kiiza Besigye is alive but Mayombo is not. That is why Norbert Mao is alive and Fred Rwigyema is not. Look in all those that joined The Movement, why was Andrew Kayiira and Nkwanga shot yet Moses Ali was left alone? And read this, the soldiers of all these men were killed, Samson Mande killed Andrew Kayiira’s barracks 135, and Nkwanga and Moses Ali’s soldiers were spread across the land and many were decapitated in DRC. Do you know any high ranking officer in UPDF today who was in Andrew Kayiira NKwanga or Moses Ali’s army? Why are they not available when they joined the Movement? But you see West Nile was screwed so Moses Ali had no way to recruit new armed forces, but if Kayiira and Nkwanga were left alive they would recruit every Muganda idiot and the carnage against the Movement would continue. So those two were cut out. The Moment you are useless The Movement loves you, but when you stop to be useless they kill you and never delude yourself, I am telling you that the day Abbey Ssemuwemba will get across their path, the day he will become a threat, they will kill him too. Those running UNAA are alive today for UNAA is not a threat to them it is actually their machinery, the moment it starts to be against them, do not go to Entebbe and introduce yourself as a president of UNAA.

    Giles this information is very important for you to be educated on The Movement. When they were fighting in Luwero, one of the Museveni best friends looked at the way Luwerorians were dying, he started to work on the stopping of the war. He wanted to work out a deal with Uganda government so that both sides sit and agree to disarm so that the war stops as long as Uganda Government gives them some conditions and assurances. For some reason I am forgetting this man’s name, but I think it was Sam Black, and I am asking Gook Barigye and Dr Kipenji to remind me the name for the record. The Movement was upset by this suggestion that they arranged for him to come to Kampala for services needed by the war. They found him in Kampala and they killed him themselves in Kampala. Why? He became a threat. Giles there was a man working as a manager of Grind lays Bank on Kampala road, NRA approached him to hand them money from the bank, the manager refused for this was a public property. They went to Bwayiise where he lived and they killed him will his entire family including his children and visitors, I attended that funeral and we buried a total of about 11 to 12 people that were murdered by NRA at that home. Namirembe sent the Reverends on a Tata truck for we needed that many. Walk to Bwayise today and ask the people of Bwayise about this family they will take you to the burial place and you will count them yourself. They are like 500 yards off Bombo road. Why was this family killed? The manager became a threat. The danger in your reasoning sir is thinking that Museveni is worried about walk to work, no it does not bother him, if it had bothered him, Dr Kiiza Besigye would have been shot already. Edward Mugalu was killed in day light at Kyambogo by pass for he was a threat. I have sources that tell me that IGP Kale Kayihura knows of the two deaths I have stated, the one of Sam Black {if I have the name right} and the one of the manager of Grind lays Bank that lived in Bwayise. And I am calling on him to challenge those facts. Be very carefully that when you judge this organization you do not base your facts on noise makers as Dr. Besigye let alone Norbert Mao.

    By the way when you are abroad they reach you too, they have used Rwandese women a great deal, be very ware.

    EM
    On the 49th

40. giles muhame
    Mar 15, 2013 @ 09:29:09

    EM
    I have been told of so many stories about the NRA. But you see, journos are trained to rely on evidence such as documents, video footage, photographs and confessions from victims to believe such stories.
    You remember very well the dictatorial governments at the time used to kill suspected NRA sympathizers.
    In my village (Ibanda), some elements beheaded Bitature Sr before dumping his body outside his gate.
    During the reign of Obote, some security elements, including Rwakasisi arrested my grand pa in Rubindi who was dumped in a car boot and driven for over 100kms.
    They suspected he was hiding the big man. Thank God he was strong enough to resist that psychological torture despite being frail. Interestingly, after NRA had seized power, Rwakasisi was detained. Museveni came and picked the old man with whom they visited Rwakasisi at Luzira.
    My grand pa told Rwakasisi, as he pointed a finger at Museveni: “Here is the man you were looking for.”
    You see, this evidence tells you the Obote apologists have always worked hard to portray Museveni as the man who used to kill his friends simply to clear their government’s tainted image.
    Regarding human rights abuses, today morning i was shocked when i saw images of Police brutally arresting protesters in Brooklyn following the shooting of a young black guy.
    I can only believe the Bombo incident if i hear from the perpetrators.
    And i have no evidence that NRA killed Kayiira. Recently, someone said they was a revolt inside Kayiira’s army – it’s highly possible he was a victim of the internal wranglings in his organisation.
    For Mayombo, his life was taken by a cocktail of ARVs and strong alcohol which led to multiple organ failure, according to evidence before me.
    My dear friend Mulindwa, i have in recent years been flying in and out of Rwanda, at times meeting high profile RPF officers. Rwigyema, being a tall chap, was taken out of action by enemy fire.
    He had just drawn a war plan in a meeting attended by now Rwanda’s defence Minister James Kabarebe when the sniper wired a bullet in his head. I used to think Bunyenyezi and Baingana were behind this heinous crime.

41. GENERAL KAYIHURA
    Mar 15, 2013 @ 09:31:18

    That is your opinion, William. What consoles us is that there are millions of Ugandans who think we have made a considerable contribution to make Uganda safe and secure. Quite frankly I will not be deterred by your prejudice.

42. George Ssendiwala
    Mar 15, 2013 @ 09:32:12

    Herr E.M,
    I think you and I suffer a similar phobia. Every time I travel to the West, I imagine that “skin-head” with a knife stabbing me because am black. For you, on the other hand, you are imagining that all Ugandans are lined up on the Entebbe-Kampala highway to loot and shoot you. Very sad about Vivian, RIP, but many Ugandans (thousands) from diasporah fly in and out of this country every month. Give me a call next time your family wants to come over and I personally will pick you from Entebbe (Ntebe) and take you around safely.
    Calling Uganda a “ZOO” (in your mail below) is self-insulting because you hail from here. Did you escape from the zoo? No number of years in Canada will take away the fact that you are a Ugandan and, going by your name, my uncle.
    Even if you choose never to come back to the ZOO alive, you will most likely be brought back.

43. GENERAL KAYIHURA
    Mar 15, 2013 @ 09:35:41

    Hannah-That is misrepresentation and utter distortion of what I said. Bukedde is not my spokesperson.

44. mulindwa edward
    Mar 15, 2013 @ 09:38:08

    George Ssendiwala

    Do you know why we had a real issue with a Police Officer when he checked us? He wanted to take a 5 dollar Canadian I had in my wallet, and I refused to give it to him on principle. That 5 dollar note wasted my 2 hours in going in circles but I went with my 5 dollars for it was mine, not his but mine. And it was a principle for Uganda is a state that survives on welfare, a welfare we should not event take to them but we do. I went to Uganda with about 5 huge suit cases all things to be given to people for free, it is amazing that many times I look for cloth to wear coming back for I have given everything away. And the person I would not expect to have a problem from is a Police Officer and not for 5 firkin bucks. Geez !!!!!

    But you see that is the argument I have done on this issue all along, Ugandans think about themselves individually, they do not have nationalism. When you go to poor countries like Cuba or Mexico, they respect you for you have brought money and tourist money, not for that individual is going to personally use it but whoever you will link up with to take it from you is a Cuban, and if a Cuban gets his hand on it the whole country benefits. When you leave Cuba everyone from custom officers to the driver to the hotel staff, yells one word, make sure you come back to visit, prices are better here and worse there. Ssendiwala why no one in Uganda asks you to come back? Why don’t they show a spirit that we are useful? The only people that ask you to come back are those you physically gave the money and cloth when you were in Uganda but a man you do not know that you find on customs, the man you find in a taxi to take you to Entebbe, does not ask you to come back to Uganda. Do you know why? For a Ugandan does not consider the money you gave the oldies in Luwero to be given to Uganda as a state. He does not see that money helping any one in a national picture. So you end up with population that looks at you and understand you re from the diaspora and My God help me to loot or to scoop something from you. Ssendiwala when we line in Entebbe to be cleared they check our suitcases, can you tell me why it is checked 3 to 4 different times? And the checks are 2 feet apart? I have just reparked the case and he goes yes open it again. I one time yelled at them and I said 2 days flying I am tired you do not want me to take the case screw you take it. And I walked. But they create that situation for each of those hands wants to see a quickie he can loot off you and some excuse to get the money out of you by sheer stressing you out. In Havana Varadero or any port of entry, I do not open my suit case they carry it and they welcome me to their country. Has any Ugandan ever welcome you to Entebbe? They are firkin balloons all waiting to blow up on you to get something to steal.

    And lastly this is not phobia for when I came to Uganda my first time, I was driven to the village and we ate and drank all we wanted. I am challenging any one that goes to Uganda these days and does not book a hotel in the city to speak up. Why are hotels booming in Kampala? Because that is the safest base, I cannot longer get driven to the village with 5 suitcases we will die in the night. So we go into Kampala book a hotel and then drive all over the place. So don’t phobia me sir.

    That happens in a country in an anarchy, and Uganda is under anarchy sir. JESUS.

    EM
    On the 49th

45. mulindwa edward
    Mar 15, 2013 @ 09:38:54

    Nuwahereza Fardson

    But you see this is the very proof that Uganda has become a ZOO, honestly who do I meet when I go to Cuba to Dominican Republic, to the Islands? I am not looking for baby sitters I am looking for a break to come to Uganda and see my people at my own expense. Now if I show up and you pick me from the airport or anywhere in Uganda, what happens to Abbey Ssemuwemba? What about WBK? What about poor Gook? Will you receive all of them? And I am appealing to the Ugandans in diaspora to visit these countries and see how they treat but respect us as investors. Then go to Uganda and see how terrible that country is. Fardson I am not pleading for you to change what I’m pleading for is a true societal change that you the Ugandans at home see a value from us as visitors. And I have written several pieces to Kale Kayihura on this issue and I keep on getting that we are working on it, but Ugandans in diaspora have to start to hit where it hurts Uganda, right in the pocket. If you are in Europe or North America get a week and book a holiday to Varadero, all inclusive you’re not going to spend more than 1000 dollars. The air fare the hotel, the foods, all kinds of alcohol your body can consume from expensive wines to hard liquor to beers to you name it all included. What you do is to book an all-inclusive package and sometimes they are on a sale I think this week there has been a sale from Montreal Ottawa Toronto Vancouver to Jibacoa at 700 dollars all inclusive. How much is the mere ticket to Uganda? And you are going through this crap of fools that fail to see that all cards are against them? Jesus !!!!!!

    And let me say this too when we are at it. Uganda is going to stop to be a destination, for my kids hate it, they hate the food, they hate the toilet system in villages, they hate bathing system in villages, but the most thing they hate out of Uganda is the decibel level. Ugandans do not know how to talk reasonably, they only shout, and you sit in a car, in a pub, in a hotel, in a restaurant, and the noise level is so appalling. And it is in all classes of hotels and restaurants. And I have said this too, women laugh as if they are torn into two wedges’. What the heck is that? Now when kids hate to fly home, we the adults are getting older and we have no strength burning ourselves across two oceans to come and see this stupidity, for that is what it is really. The things we used to get out of Uganda, like groundnuts, Omuzigo, Fene, Matooke is all coming here from Asia at the same taste. You see many of these seeds were picked up by AMO one government and introduced into Uganda from Asia, now we can get them from where AMO got them, and we are laughing, and these things are on health standards for the producers care about our health. Fardson what chemical tests are done on Muzigo from Uganda? Israelis got Nile Perch from Lake Victoria during Iddi Amin time and they are growing them at market value, a box of Tilapia fresh from Israel is at 12 to 13 dollars Canadian, you get 10 Nile perches. Tasting exactly as from Lake Victoria. Now tell me why we will still be flying to Uganda? Looking for baby factories? Uganda women are fat and I have gone on that record already man. And when you look at the Ugandans young and arriving now they have started to expand their nets to other nationalities, let Uganda women continue dancing naked and getting fat, we are moving on sir. We have started to see even the Uganda girls that came here long ago preferring to get sperms from sperm banks than wasting time with Uganda looser men that come here and become useless. So you are cutting off your selves on both side of the pendulum. Watch that country, at the rate you guys are failing to change, you will be lucky to get a Ugandan from diaspora visiting come 2020.

    The ball is in your God damn hands.

    EM
    On the 49th

    Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
    “With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy”
    Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
    “Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko”

46. abbey
    Mar 15, 2013 @ 13:24:14

    Mr.Mulindwa,

    I’m not indulging in who possibly was killed by NRM/NRA or Museveni as we don’t yet have any serious evidence. All I know is that dictators in Africa usually murderer a lot of innocent people including women and children for the sole purpose of thinking it would make everyone fear opposing them.

    The horrendous political and economic problems in the Uganda are the direct result of a lot of factors including the bad leaders we immediately got after independence in 1960s. At the moment, our nation’s image around the world is indeed very sad as every Ugandan you speak to[including some working for the government], are afraid of the people upstairs. People are afraid to speak their minds; they are afraid of poison; they are afraid of being killed or arrested; afraid of visiting or returning home; e.t.c. We cannot continue living like this!

    That’s why I think everybody has got a role to play in this road to recovery including the Ugandans living abroad. We should have a direct role in shaping the political and economic future of our homeland.That’s where most UAH members come in.

    In general my experience is that I have had far more privacy and less government intrusion in my life when living abroad. Not to mention the various advantages that come with living in developed nations such as the UK. But at the same time, I love my original country, and I would find it heart breaking if anybody made it difficult for me to travel back home any time I wish to……….. just because of what I write on UAH or other social networks.

    Yes, there is already that fear among Ugandans living abroad that government is trying to stitch some of them to this new ‘rebel’ thing, as recently reported by the Bukedde newspaper. We are also aware that there are a lot of ‘boys’ and ‘girls’ in security who are so over ambitious such that they could do anything to please their bosses, even if it means stitching someone who is a government critic and living abroad.

    People should not be harmed because of their roles in fighting for human rights in our country. Arresting or killing them would be a cruel and indefeasible abuse of power, government or otherwise, over citizens in a ‘free’ country, unless someone in the government comes up and says: ‘Uganda is not a free country’. So, I’m really happy with Gen. Kayihura’s open contribution towards this compared to Mr.Tony Owana ‘Mutayamba’( the UBC boss).

    So far, your suspicions about the real intentions of the government would be in error unless we start getting various reports about Ugandans from abroad being killed or arrested by the government. Per the news reports I’ve seen, not much has been reported so far. The reason why I raised the issue in the first place is because it is a big issue among Ugandans in Diaspora. People fear visiting home because they think the govt there would arrest or kill them. For instance, i know of a former member of UAH who abandoned this forum the moment he decided to return and settle back in Uganda.

    One of the things I have learned from living abroad and having the massive inter-cultural experience that I have is that there is no “standard in human psychology and never to just judge anybody,” which I can use to make my point here. I can’t pretend that I know General Kayihura at all because I don’t know him and he is not my friend, but at the same time, I have got to have faith in what he is openly promising Ugandans living abroad. If any of us happen to be killed or arrested or harmed in anyway while in Uganda, then this will probably take this debate to another level.

    How Ugandans would react to such a situation, I wouldn’t know, as every culture reacts differently to a certain set of circumstances.

    Case in point: ‘guns’

    Americans as a whole think, “it’s your right to shoot someone if they try to shoot you.’

    Ugandans will probably think: ‘you should not be doing that…it’s wrong or bad or unhealthy for the society’. That’s why we have never seen serious actions from the people even after over 30 people were shot down in September 2009 riots.

    Dutch people say,” It is your own business whether you smoke cannabis or protect yourself against an enemy.”

    Refusing to admit error in Mediterranean cultures is for the boss.

    Admitting error would in some cultures, especially African, lessen your ability to lead, command, or even reduce your level of respect. That’s why you see a lot of our leaders in Uganda denying even the most obvious things.

    Needless to say, if Ugandans are fed up with the actions of the Museveni administration, then whatever is being done to keep the regime in power is not sustainable in the long run, and i think some brilliant minds in the government are aware of this. For the meantime, we have got to take Gen.Kayihura by his words as we wait for his actions.

    Nze bwendaba munange

    Abbey

47. mulindwa edward
    Mar 15, 2013 @ 13:33:37

    Giles Muhame

    It becomes very complicated to hold discussion about safety and democracy in Uganda in an abstract as this, and probably we as Ugandans in diaspora fail to realize that Uganda is a safe country and all deaths in Uganda are happening due to AMOs government as you have illustrated above. Giles you need to defend this government on a day like when the child was shot in Masaka, and we all in this forum lamented on where Uganda government was, at that day you posted no single comment and neither did Kale Kayihura. On a day Agaba and Komakech went to Luzira and fired into people in day light and on camera you did not post a dam thing nor did Kale Kayihura, on a day of Kampala riots when many were shot and arrested you did not post a dam thing and neither did Kale Kayihura. On a day when a young journalist was shot on Kampala road in front of Uganda house and killed, you did not post a God damn thing and neither did Kale Kayihura.

    Many un informed Ugandans in this forum supported this government because they expected it to be a democratic government, yes you have listed the people that were arrested and killed and I am not going to defend those actions for they were wrong, but today in 2013 what Ugandans got is not the arrest of Bitature but a total disorganization of entire sections of Uganda. The entire Luwero district was screwed up. The entire northern Uganda was screwed up. The entire Eastern Uganda was screwed up. How many Ugandans have died in Luwero in East in West of Uganda? Neither you nor Kale Kayihura has that figure. How many mass graves have you created? Neither you nor Kale Kayihura has those figures. It is an insult to list me two small men that were arrested or killed and you build a case of dictatorship. Muhame President Museveni went to Parliament and addressed parliament on the killing they did in Northern Uganda, and he said and I directly quote the president, “ These chaps kept on coming and we kept on killing them, these chaps kept on coming and we kept on mascaraing them” Giles that speech is on a permanent record for it is in the Hansard of Uganda parliament and it will always be referred to so that Ugandans like you realize the damage this government has done. The people of Mukura were packed into train wagons and torched alive. The people that were killed in Kanungu to today no one knows their numbers. And let me state this, the government we have in Uganda today, has killed or caused to kill as more Ugandans than all past governments combined, including the colonial masters we had in the country. But the problem we have is that we do not put a number on them, for example how many died in Luwero? Iddi Amin said that he wonders why people complain about Uganda when people actually get shot every day in Detroit.

    Yes I get it, Bitature’ s death is very wrong for the year he was killed there was no single gun death in the entire United States so we must list that death and forget all other deaths that have happened after for they have happened when a brutal arrest happens in Brooklyn. Wow Muhame that kind of reasoning is very troubling, for it is shallow, childish uncalled for and out right plain stupid.

    Strange how you people fail to always get it. JESUS !!!!!!

    EM
    On the 49th

48. Odiya
    Mar 15, 2013 @ 13:36:29

    If you want to be scared, get into Kinshasa International Airport. Another chaotic place is Juba Airport. You will appreciate EBB even if you have to part with some $s, which you can discount as your charitable contributions to the natives!

    Odiya

49. Jotham Kamugasha
    Mar 22, 2013 @ 20:54:25

    It is true there are some goons in police and recently I survived being murdered by a cadet called Ojimamu while I was in Nakasongola and he decided to shoot at me but I can not take that to be an act of the whole Uganda police. In general the police under afande Kale is doing a commendable job. There are some rogues in police that actually if it was not the toughness of Kale they would cause mayhem to wanainchi. As for those guys who are in the diaspora no need to fear, there is rule of law in Uganda and police can not just arrest you without evidence against you, even in the unlikely event that police arrests you, you will be produced in court and if they dont have evidence against you, you will be set free by courts. Police bring your money and we develop motherland.

50. mulindwa edward
    Mar 22, 2013 @ 20:55:06

    Jotham Kamugasha

    I went to Uganda with my daughter, and some goon decided to steal my shoes when we handed them to him to polish them, and I do not get my shoes polished but I decided to create some job than just handing money to a standing pimp. When we realized that the shoes had been sold, I went to buy another set than yelling, my daughter though decided to take it in her hands to report the matter to the Police Station which was very near to where we dwelt. And her concern was very simple these were very expensive shoes and whoever will buy them will not realize the value into them. A Police officer told her that he cannot take the report for he does not have paper on which to write the report. My daughter pulled her back pack and threw a rim on his table and said here we go let us get a report filled then get us a reference number to check on you and how you have progressed. By the way that Police Ref. was also important for me to file a claim to my insurance when I come back here, the pair was that expensive. When The Police Officer saw the rim of papers on his table, he looked into her eyes and said, thank you for the papers but you see it is so windy in this office, that if I write a report on one of those papers the wind will blow it off the table. As a true Canadian kid she walked out of the station got a stone and put it on top of the rim of papers. She did not get that report and I came home when she was very frustrated and she needs nothing to do with Uganda for the cops are deranged. Those are her words.

    I went with a group from here to home and we wanted to drive in the country for we had many things we needed to see. On arriving to Nairobi we decided to pick up a car so that we drive it to Uganda and use it for the drive, a nice 4X4 Mercedes Benz. We drove alright and arrived in Kampala, we slept and started the driving, Two major problems we found, Gas stations were selling air than fuel, so his machine moves when he is not putting in the juice, we one-time almost got stranded for we never cared to check the gauge and we drove, only to get stalled after half hour. That we managed to find a solution you dump in when we are watching, what we failed to deal with was the sheer incompetence of Uganda Police. Because we drove from Kampala to Gulu Arua then back through Masindi Hoima Kasese Mbarara Kampala, we really had no home in the country, we had to rely on hotels, and the first question was how can we park the truck in the night? And everybody was advising us to park on a Police Station for it is safe to park on them over night, and they were very expensive for they charge too. Jotham Kamugasha they stole the wheels on that truck 5 times. In a single week we spent in Uganda we had to replace the tires 5 times and it was tricky to replace them for the size was uncommon in the country and we had to go through files of numbers to see the truck moving. The most interesting Police station was Kigumba where they stole the wheels early in the night we came to check on it after diner at 9 15 and they were gone. Now you have a piece of equipment that expensive and it is sitting as a duck for it has no wheels they have been stolen on a Police station, and when you ask them what happened they pull all kinds of firkin crap. We had to extend our stay for at minimum 3 days due to this stupidity, now Jonathan we have some terrible jobs here that I cannot get a two week break, most I get is one week and after praying all Gods from Ruhama. We lost the time we lost the money we lost the reputation for the guy that gave us the truck now started to question if we are selling the tires.

    Jotham Kamugasha where is the reliable Police Officer in Uganda? Honestly if you cannot park a God damn car on a Police station, which should not even happen in a country that isn’t a Zoo, but I know I am in a Zoo and I have handed you my property, which can pay a salary of half the entire national Police force for a couple of months. And you fail to see that it lives through a God dam night without being molested, where are the good Uganda Police Officers sir? And I have started to read this condescending tone out of Kale Kayihura too that it is we in diaspora that fail to realize how nice are the Police Officers in Uganda, do you guys actually deal with that service? Or you think we personally hate them? There is no professionalism at all and they are a mobile bomb only waiting to see an opening to get to you. If they did this to us trust me they did it to another Ugandan and another Ugandan complained and we were given that very same crap of yes we have some goons. Are you kidding me? So you have them and they are armed and in uniform and you know they are goons? Now you know why I advise people to forget Uganda and fly somewhere else man, I get few days of holiday and I have no love let alone the patience of this kind of nonsense.

    Look I left Uganda and decided to fly through Japan to here, for I wanted to see someone in Kobe. I bought a travellers cheques in Kampala and left, when I arrived in Kobe the lady refused to cash them for I had bought them from Uganda. I reached a point of getting stuck with no money in a far country, after I lamented she allowed me to see the Branch Manager who allowed my TCs to be paid on condition that my Canadian passport get written on all of them. And on my way out of his office he whispered in my ear, my dear friend next time you go through Uganda do not buy their TCs. So the crap in Uganda is well known all over the God damn place except to you two, Jotham Kamugasha and Kale Kayihura. Uganda TCs are good if you buy them from a reputable bank, but there has been several mishaps that banks do not have the time to waste on them, for he is not sure if it is legit or not. I am sorry but I have better cheaper and nearer places I can go for vacation, Uganda is simply not worth it. And until when you start to self-reflect, you will lose one visitor after another, today it is EM and his entire family.

    And trust me you gain more from my visit than me visiting Uganda. And by all standards.

    EM
    On the 49th

    Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
    “With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy”
    Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
    “Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko”

51. robukui
    Mar 22, 2013 @ 20:55:49

    It is true there are some goons in police and recently I survived being murdered by a cadet called Ojimamu while I was in Nakasongola and he decided to shoot at me but I can not take that to be an act of the whole Uganda police. In general the police under afande Kale is doing a commendable job

    Someone is in denial that they live in a security state.

    Viele GruBe
    Robukui

52. nuwwahereza fardson kairanga
    Mar 22, 2013 @ 20:56:46

    EM
    I have now come to realize why you are always victimized. “You are so arrogant to our indigenous citizens when here in Uganda”, so that is the easiest way to repay you!!.
    Naye EM, is it true that your daughter was carrying a whole rim of paper, pannaaa nganye!
    I pity that police officer that your daughter had gone to pick the ref no from, you must have combined in insulting him from the beginning, and in the end, he saw no value in helping you.
    The EM, I have come to know, could not have left his expensive pair of shoes to go without boxing or strangling someone, a big question mark here boss.

    For the guys who stole your wheels, those ones must have come following you all the way from Kenya. Those were not Ugandans, five times stealing your wheels!! Wacha!
    Many vehicles are packed at police station every night and their parts are never stolen, yap I can’t deny it can happen not stealing from a Canadian citizen, but it was tooooo mucchhh!
    EM, you will never cease to blame our dear country and everything in it!!

    Man you need to come back very soon, but don’t forget to come back with that BMW, coz if you are lucky, the same thieves may take only engine this time, but if you over doze, then you will wake up when the whole BMW is turned into spares at Kisseka market.!!!

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